AndrewHickey comments on Firewalling the Optimal from the Rational - Less Wrong

86 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 08 October 2012 08:01AM

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Comment author: lukeprog 07 October 2012 09:51:22AM 4 points [-]

The phrase "contemporary art music" has its own problems, of course. For example, it suggests that music from the rock and jazz worlds isn't "art" or "artistic music," which would be a weird thing to say of Joanna Newsome, Julia Holter, Elegi, Matthew Shipp, Nels Cline, Carla Bley, Bill Frisell, and many others.

I've also heard the term "university music," since nearly all composers of the type you and I are discussing were trained in music at a university, but of course that's also true for lots of rock and jazz composers.

Anyway, thanks for the link to your sampler list of works!

Comment author: [deleted] 07 October 2012 12:26:05PM 2 points [-]

On my university popular music course, we were told that the accepted term at that time (ten years ago) was "Western Art Music", but that that covered jazz as well. Possibly "orchestral" music? Although that would then cover stuff like film scores, or rock bands using a symphony orchestra as what amounts to a big guitar, and wouldn't cover solo piano works or someone like Varese...

Comment author: [deleted] 08 October 2012 09:37:30PM 0 points [-]

Symphonic music?

Comment author: gjm 08 October 2012 10:20:19PM 2 points [-]

Same problem as "orchestral music": it would exclude piano sonatas, string quartets, solo songs, etc.