Reality_Check comments on Firewalling the Optimal from the Rational - Less Wrong

86 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 08 October 2012 08:01AM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (339)

You are viewing a single comment's thread. Show more comments above.

Comment author: thomblake 08 October 2012 07:19:46PM 0 points [-]

Authority is almost always used to describe argumentation based on sources other than logic or evidence.

I don't think that's true. Most uses of "authority" are not about argumentation at all. The local parking authority, for existence.

Authority is practically meaningless as a concept if it includes both accurate and inaccurate foundations of argumentation. Probability theory works, appeals to authority don't.

I'm not sure this even makes sense enough to be wrong. I can't parse "accurate and inaccurate" with respect to "foundations of argumentation". Are you meaning to refer to fallacies, or something?

In general, there's nothing wrong with appeals to authority. It's well-understood that there is no formal logical step that takes one from "Authority says x" to "x". Nonetheless, TheOtherDave has it right:

X is an authority with respect to a proposition P to the extent that X's assertion of P is evidence for P.

It's worth remembering that other evidence screens off authority, but you have to take the evidence that you can get.