Raemon comments on Meetup : Winter Solstice Megameetup - NYC - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Raemon 08 October 2012 06:07:29PM *  0 points [-]

Also: last year I promised not to have the bulk of ritual-meta-discussion take place on Less Wrong (signals bad things), but if you're interested in collaborating on the Solstice design process, you can join the rational-ritual mailing list. (send me a PM with your e-mail address)

Comment author: evand 08 October 2012 10:39:52PM 2 points [-]

I'd be interested in hearing reports of how it went, but am not interested in collaborating. Should I sign up for the list anyway? Will there be reports posted elsewhere? (I'm reluctant to sign up for new mailing lists because I frequently end up reading all the traffic even if I don't really find it that interesting.)

Comment author: Raemon 09 October 2012 03:37:52AM -1 points [-]

I will be posting one followup post on Less Wrong (possibly another mini-sequence if I think there's enough worthwhile content that the community as a whole would benefit from), so you can probably just wait and see.

Comment author: Yuu 09 October 2012 10:31:11AM *  0 points [-]

Could you give an example of “ritual-meta-discussion”?

Comment author: Raemon 09 October 2012 08:13:14PM -1 points [-]

In descending levels of meta that may occur on the list:

1) Discussing what purposes we should or shouldn't use ritual for

2) Discussing how how many events should be held throughout the year, what types of events they should be, how similar or different they should be, how many people should we attempt to bring to them, which groups we should be targeting, how should various events be thematically tied together

3) How should the emotional arc of a particular event be? In the case of the Winter Solstice, how far do we want to push emotions in particular directions (it gets at least somewhat grim before it becomes uplifting - do we want just a little grim, or should people actually be, like, crying at the unfairness of the universe, before we start

4) Events have numerous "niches" that need filling. The Winter Solstice, for example, needs a combination of fun/loud songs, silly stories, quieter/prettier songs, grimly realistic songs/stories, and then uplifting songs/stories. It doesn't matter what specific pieces fill those niches, as long as they all fit together harmoniously.

5) Feedback on individual songs, stories and potentially other activities.

Earlier in the year, I posted most of my thoughts regarding all of these levels of the design process. I didn't end up getting enough response to be worth the time to distill my thoughts into organized e-mails, so eventually I started working off the list. But as the Winter Solstice approaches I'll be soliciting more feedback, specifically for 3, 4 and 5.

Comment author: Yuu 10 October 2012 07:55:36AM 0 points [-]

I see, thank you.

Comment author: pleeppleep 09 October 2012 02:54:31AM *  0 points [-]

Can you collaborate on the design process without actually planning to attend?

Comment author: Raemon 09 October 2012 03:36:23AM 0 points [-]

yes. (Realized afterward I need e-mail address, so send me a pm)