nshepperd comments on The deeper solution to the mystery of moralism—Believing in morality and free will are hazardous to your mental health - Less Wrong

-19 Post author: metaphysicist 14 October 2012 01:21PM

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Comment author: nshepperd 14 October 2012 04:10:46AM 7 points [-]

Having read the article, I can now confirm that it is approximately as worthless as its poor formatting and excessive wordiness would suggest. Downvoted.

Comment author: Pablo_Stafforini 14 October 2012 04:53:35AM *  3 points [-]

However irritating the formatting might be (and believe me, it did irritate me), I think you still have an intellectual obligation to provide some kind of justification for making such a harsh judgment on someone else's contribution. What made the article worthless, in your estimation? (You don't need to write a detailed review; a few lines should suffice.)

Comment author: nshepperd 14 October 2012 01:32:03PM 21 points [-]

The article (as well as being poorly formatted and wordy):

  1. Appears to equate moral realism with some kind of deontology, or virtue theory, it's hard to tell, since the term is only defined through describing what bad things it causes.

  2. Seems to have been written in ignorance of the notion of compatibilist free will, as well as lacking justification for why free will would even be relevant anyway.

  3. In general seems to be a long string of arguments with little justification of their validity, and

  4. Mainly, appears to have been written for the purpose of proving wrong the author's political opponent "moralism", and as such to have written the bottom line first.

I could be more specific, but I don't really think it would be worthwhile.

Comment author: BerryPick6 14 October 2012 02:01:05PM 2 points [-]

I agree with these points, and I also think that he is using certain terms in either unique or unfamiliar ways. This, in itself, is fine, but I'm not seeing any specific place in which these words are defined as being used in an unusual manner, and it left me very confused as I was reading.

Comment author: Pablo_Stafforini 14 October 2012 02:54:55PM 0 points [-]

Many thanks.

Comment author: Oscar_Cunningham 14 October 2012 04:52:30PM 4 points [-]

I think you still have an intellectual obligation to provide some kind of justification for making such a harsh judgment on someone else's contribution.

I disagree. There's too many idiots out there for me to provide an explanation to everyone I dismiss.

Comment author: thomblake 15 October 2012 05:31:48PM 4 points [-]

There's too many idiots out there for me to provide an explanation to everyone I dismiss.

That's fine - if you're strapped for time, you can "dismiss" them without posting anything. But if you have the time to complain, then you should make the complaints helpful.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 14 October 2012 05:12:27PM 2 points [-]

Careful with that axe, Eugene.

Comment author: Bruno_Coelho 15 October 2012 08:55:23PM 0 points [-]

Unjustified assertions could be more productive if not made. Creating fuss about idiots makes unnecessary noise. However, we could think this dismissiveness inform us about the status of the post.