Eugine_Nier comments on Stuff That Makes Stuff Happen - Less Wrong

51 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 18 October 2012 10:49AM

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Comment author: CCC 26 October 2012 07:42:56AM 0 points [-]

Your prediction is a prediction of what someone else will conclude, given a set of initial conditions (the mathematical problem) and a set of rules to apply to these conditions. The conclusion that you arrive at is a causal descendant of the problem and the rules of mathematics; the conclusion that the other person arrives at is a causal descendant of the same initial problem and the same rules.

That's the causal link.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 26 October 2012 11:02:35PM 0 points [-]

That's my point. Specifically, that one should have nodes in one's causal diagram for mathematical truths, what you called "rules of mathematics".

Comment author: CCC 28 October 2012 02:26:36PM -1 points [-]

Surely the node should be "person X was taught basic mathematics", and not mathematics itself?

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 03 November 2012 09:50:15PM 1 point [-]

The point of having the node is to have a common cause of person X's beliefs about mathematics and person Y's beliefs about mathematics that explains why these two beliefs are correlated even if both discovered said mathematics interdependently.