Larks comments on 2012 Less Wrong Census Survey: Call For Critiques/Questions - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Larks 19 October 2012 06:26:43PM *  3 points [-]

"degree" : the names of diploma is quite US-centric, why not just ask for number of years of university study (after end of high school) ?

Bachelor's / Master's / Ph. D / MD/JD/other equivalent professional degree is standard in the UK, Australia, etc. as well.

Comment author: [deleted] 19 October 2012 11:06:41PM 1 point [-]

And even though the names may differ, there are obvious equivalents in Italy (and I guess most of Europe) too.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 20 October 2012 06:47:29AM *  4 points [-]

There's been a standardization process establishing equivalent degrees in pretty much all of Europe.

The basic framework adopted is of three cycles of higher education qualification. As outlined in the Bergen Declaration[7] of 2005, the cycles are defined in terms of qualifications and European Credit Transfer and Accumulation System (ECTS) credits:

  • 1st cycle: typically 180–240 ECTS credits, usually awarding a bachelor's degree. The European Higher Education Area did not introduce the Bachelor with Honours programme, which allows graduates with a "BA hons." degree (e.g. in UK, USA, Canada) to undertake doctoral studies without first having to obtain a master's degree.
  • 2nd cycle: typically 90–120 ECTS credits (a minimum of 60 on 2nd-cycle level). Usually awarding a master's degree.
  • 3rd cycle: doctoral degree. No ECTS range given.

In most cases, these will take 3, 2, and 3 years respectively to complete. The actual naming of the degrees may vary from country to country.

Comment author: [deleted] 20 October 2012 08:38:29AM 1 point [-]

Indeed. When I'm speaking in English, I normally just refer to the degree I got in 2009 as a Bachelor's, the degree I got last week as a Master's, and the one I'll hopefully get in three years as a PhD, without even mentioning their Italian names unless I have some kind of reason to do that.

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