novalis comments on Causal Reference - Less Wrong

30 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 20 October 2012 10:12PM

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Comment author: novalis 26 October 2012 06:34:51PM -1 points [-]

So in this case, in your view, subjective experiences would be reduced, while qualia would be eliminated?

Comment author: Peterdjones 30 October 2012 02:56:27AM 1 point [-]

I am not saying that all posits are doomed to elimination, only that what is elemintated tends to be a posit rather than a prima facie phenomenon. How could you say that there is no heat? I also don't agree that qualia are posits...but Dennett of course needs to portray them that way in order to eliminate them.

Comment author: novalis 30 October 2012 04:09:51AM -1 points [-]

I don't think I understand what you think is and isn't a "posit". "Cold" is a prima facie phenomenon as well, but it has been subsumed entirely into the concept of "heat".

Comment author: Peterdjones 30 October 2012 06:51:32PM 1 point [-]

The prima-facie phenomenon of "cold" (as in "your hands feel cold") has been subsumed under the scientific theory of heat-as-random-molecular-motion. That's reduction. it was never eilmininated in favour of the prima-facie phenomenn of heat, as in "This soup is hot".