Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on Proofs, Implications, and Models - Less Wrong

58 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 30 October 2012 01:02PM

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Comment author: moshez 30 October 2012 05:47:51PM 10 points [-]

"I will remark, in some horror and exasperation with the modern educational system, that I do not recall any math-book of my youth ever once explaining that the reason why you are always allowed to add 1 to both sides of an equation is that it is a kind of step which always produces true equations from true equations."

I can now say that my K-12 education was, at least in this one way, better than yours. I must have been 14 at the time, and the realization that you can do that hit me like a ton of bricks, followed closely by another ton of bricks -- choosing what to add is not governed by the laws of math -- you really can add anything, but not everything is equally useful.

E.g., "solve for x, x+1=5"

You can choose to add -1 to the equation, getting "x+1+-1=5+-1", simplify both sides and get "x=4" and yell "yay", but you can also choose to add, say, 37, and get (after simplification) "x+38=42" which is still true, just not useful. My immediate question after that was "how do you know what to choose" and, long story short, 15 years later I published a math paper... :)

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 01 November 2012 01:38:46PM *  0 points [-]

I only got K-8[\6] (I'm not a highschool dropout, thank you, I just never went in the first place) so I've got no idea what people learn when they're 14.

Comment author: CronoDAS 03 November 2012 12:11:54AM 1 point [-]

Homeschooled! The status-preserving term is "homeschooled"!

Comment author: Curiouskid 05 November 2012 04:26:39AM 2 points [-]

For the people who got Thiel Fellowships, the status-preserving term is "stopped-out".

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 06 November 2012 02:02:27AM -1 points [-]

Heck, at that level even "drop-out" works as a form of counter-signaling.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 03 November 2012 12:19:59AM 0 points [-]

Homeschooling is what Christians do. I'm an autodidact.

Comment author: somervta 03 November 2012 12:38:52PM 5 points [-]

One thing that I've always wanted to ask you, but for some reason never have, is what kind of form your autodidactism took. Did you just read books (if so, what kind? Textbooks?), did you get a tutor, did your parents help?

Comment author: Epiphany 03 November 2012 01:26:54AM *  1 point [-]

I think it's a good thing you didn't receive more schooling. I'm an autodidact, too. I wish I had embarked on a self-education journey sooner. Reasons.