Eugine_Nier comments on Logical Pinpointing - Less Wrong

62 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 02 November 2012 03:33PM

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Comment author: bsterrett 01 November 2012 09:32:18PM 2 points [-]

I am not entirely sure how you arrived at the conclusion that justice is a meaningful concept. I am also unclear on how you know the statement "If X is just, then do X" is correct. Could you elaborate further?

In general, I don't think it is a sufficient test for the meaningfulness of a property to say "I can imagine a universe which has/lacks this property, unlike our universe, therefore it is meaningful."

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 02 November 2012 11:11:33PM -1 points [-]

In general, I don't think it is a sufficient test for the meaningfulness of a property to say "I can imagine a universe which has/lacks this property, unlike our universe, therefore it is meaningful."

Um, mathematics.

Comment author: bsterrett 03 November 2012 08:07:31PM 1 point [-]

I can't imagine a universe without mathematics, yet I think mathematics is meaningful. Doesn't this mean the test is not sufficient to determine the meaningfulness of a property?

Is there some established thinking on alternate universes without mathematics? My failure to imagine such universes is hardly conclusive.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 03 November 2012 10:27:02PM *  0 points [-]

Sorry, misread what you wrote in the grand parent. I agree with you.