SilasBarta comments on Logical Pinpointing - Less Wrong

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Comment author: SilasBarta 04 November 2012 04:36:52AM *  4 points [-]

What about Steven Landsburg's frequent crowing on the Platonicity of math and how numbers are real because we can "directly perceive them"? How does this relate to it?

EDIT: Well, he replies here.

Comment author: Kenny 05 July 2013 07:21:37PM 0 points [-]

I was wondering what he thought about this!

While I greatly sympathize with the "Platonicity of math", I can't shake the idea that my reasoning about numbers isn't any kind of direct perception, but just reasoning about an in-memory representation of a model that is ultimately based on all the other systems that behave like numbers.

I find the arguments about how not all true statements regarding the natural numbers can be inferred via first-order logic tedious. It doesn't seem like our understanding of the natural numbers is particularly impoverished because of it.