MagnetoHydroDynamics comments on Logical Pinpointing - Less Wrong

62 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 02 November 2012 03:33PM

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Comment author: bryjnar 04 November 2012 01:12:38AM 1 point [-]

We don't know whether the universe is finite or not. If it is finite, then there is nothing in it that fully models the natural numbers. Would we then have to say that the numbers did not exist? If the system that we're referring to isn't some physical thing, what is it?

Comment author: [deleted] 14 November 2012 08:56:30AM 0 points [-]

Finite subsets of the naturals still behave like naturals.

Comment author: bryjnar 14 November 2012 12:12:44PM 1 point [-]

Not precisely. In many ways, yes, but for example they don't model the axiom of PA that says that every number has a successor.

Comment author: [deleted] 15 November 2012 12:56:00PM 1 point [-]

True, but the axiom of induction holds, and that is the most useful one.