Mario comments on The First Koan: Drinking the Hot Iron Ball - Less Wrong

-4 Post author: Annoyance 07 May 2009 05:41PM

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Comment author: Mario 07 May 2009 09:05:09PM 6 points [-]

Am I the only one that has always assumed that story was a joke epically misunderstood? If the monk had instead asked, "What is the nature of a dog's path to enlightenment?" I think Joshu would have answered "Rough."

Comment author: byrnema 08 May 2009 04:27:13AM *  5 points [-]

Wikipedia lists this as a possibility, that "mu" in archaic Japenese was "wu" the sound that a dog makes. While this also makes the koan a pun, I think it now works even better as a koan:

Q: Does a dog have a Buddha-nature? A: Woof!

Does 'Woof!' mean 'yes'? Does it mean 'no'? It's still just 'mu', but better. (For one thing, we'd expect an English-speaking dog to respond to the question.)

Comment author: SoullessAutomaton 07 May 2009 09:18:32PM 5 points [-]

Once, a young monk asked Joshu, "Master, does a cow possess buddha-nature?"

Joshu thought briefly, then replied, "Muuuuuu."