steven0461 comments on The First Koan: Drinking the Hot Iron Ball - Less Wrong

-4 Post author: Annoyance 07 May 2009 05:41PM

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Comment author: steven0461 08 May 2009 04:04:48PM 2 points [-]

The worst kind of bullshit is that which comes dressed up to look very nearly like insight and happens to include a 'if you don't agree you are naive/unsophiscated/unenlighted/possibly heretical'.

You have much to learn. The Zen that can be accurately criticized is not the true Zen.

Comment author: thomblake 08 May 2009 06:03:56PM 3 points [-]

Just like a Westerner to paraphrase Taoism when commenting on Zen.

Comment author: steven0461 08 May 2009 06:42:09PM 4 points [-]

I'm a Zen Taoist -- I worship an unspeakable shapeless void that doesn't exist.

Comment author: jimrandomh 08 May 2009 04:19:41PM 1 point [-]

That sounds like the No True Scotsman fallacy to me.

Comment author: Annoyance 08 May 2009 06:53:02PM 0 points [-]

The source of existence does not itself exist. The necessary precondition for a property can never possess that property itself.

This would be clearer if you could explicitly state what you mean when you assert that something exists, but I very strongly suspect you can't do so. (You're hardly alone in this, so it's no particular shame if it's the case.) I could of course be mistaken.