Cyan comments on Epistemic vs. Instrumental Rationality: Case of the Leaky Agent - Less Wrong

14 Post author: Wei_Dai 07 May 2009 11:09PM

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Comment author: Cyan 08 May 2009 12:46:12AM *  0 points [-]

Wei Dai points out on OB that there exists causal agents that could benefit from hiding predictable actions and reactions we might make from our very selves on account of how leaky we are. I'd vote the OB comment up if I could.

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Comment author: Wei_Dai 09 May 2009 08:12:48AM 2 points [-]

My answer is yes, I'd probably do it, assuming the profit is large enough and the lie isn't on a topic that I greatly care about the truth of. But if everyone did this, everyone will be worse off, since their bargaining advantages will cancel each other, but their false beliefs will continue to carry a cost. It's like a prisoner's dilemma game, except that it won't be obvious who is cooperating and who is defecting, so cooperation (i.e. not self-modifying to believe strategic falsehoods) probably can't be enforced by simple tit-for-tat.

We as a society will need to find a solution to this problem, if it ever becomes a serious one.

Comment author: Cyan 08 May 2009 04:30:21AM *  0 points [-]

Wei Dai is the author of the present post. The timeline is that Wei Dai commented in response to Robin Hanson's OB post Prefer Peace, and then expanded on those comments here on LW. My link just points back to those original comments.

Comment author: randallsquared 08 May 2009 01:01:59PM 1 point [-]

Wei Dai is the author of the present post.

Hence Cameron's gentle sarcasm.

Comment author: Cyan 08 May 2009 02:32:07PM 2 points [-]

Thank you for clarifying the tone of Cameron's response. It was rather baffling when I was reading it straight, but now it makes sense.