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Comment author: TheOtherDave 02 November 2012 01:14:18PM 21 points [-]

Previously approximated here.

I still habitually complete this joke with:

"Actually," says the stage magician, "we merely know that there exists something in Scotland which appears to be a sheep which is black on at least one side when viewed from this spot."

Though I'm now tempted to add:
"Hmph," snorts the cognitive psychologist. "Such presumption. An event occurred that we experienced as the perception of a black sheep, only one side of which was visible, standing on what we believed to be a field in Scotland."

Comment author: [deleted] 02 November 2012 03:11:48PM 13 points [-]

I've heard a version in which after the mathematician speaks, the shepherd yells “Snowy White [the name of the sheep]! Stop rolling in the mud!”

Comment author: Abd 02 November 2012 08:55:40PM 6 points [-]

Best version, in my snap judgment. The story, told this way, is about the different modes of thinking of astronomers, physicists, mathematicians, and shepherds. (and there are other variations about the approaches of stage magicians and cognitive psychologists, each of which has a characteristic interest. As a pure and careful thinker, the mathematician comes up with something similar to the practical approach of the stage magician, or the more-carefully-specified approach of the cognitive psychologist.)

But the shepherd is living in a different realm, very connected to reality, and comes up with something, from knowledge, not from thinking and careful analysis, that the sheep isn't black at all. The cognitive psychologist allowed for this, distinguishing the possibility of perceptual error, but still could not speak with authority about the sheep itself.

But this version doesn't mention the cognitive psychologist. The shepherd essentially confirms the conceptual space of the cognitive psychologist.

Comment author: DanArmak 02 November 2012 03:54:21PM *  6 points [-]

"Bah", says the thermodynamicist. "All I know is that your brain is in a configuration that makes you say you saw a black sheep a minute ago."

Comment author: Alejandro1 02 November 2012 04:21:15PM 12 points [-]

"Meh", says the trivialist. "Scottish sheep are black. Scottish sheep are white. Scottish sheep are black and white. Scottish sheep are purple octopuses. And I don't even need to look out the window."

Comment author: FiftyTwo 02 November 2012 04:26:05PM *  23 points [-]

While everyone else is arguing the pragmatist has googled "Scottish Sheep varieties"

Comment author: Alejandro1 02 November 2012 05:56:22PM 23 points [-]

And Robin Hanson sets up a prediction market in Scottish sheep colors.

Comment author: DaFranker 02 November 2012 06:08:18PM 5 points [-]

And Paul Graham is making money off of startups that try to profit from the recent boom in Scottish sheep color economies. Oh wait...

Comment author: DanArmak 02 November 2012 06:20:03PM 2 points [-]

Cloned white and black True ScotsSheep with lifetime color warranties are marketed, free shipping worldwide.

Comment author: [deleted] 02 November 2012 03:59:51PM 4 points [-]

Add in another scoffing thermodynamicist, and we can round out the joke with an infinite regress.

Comment author: BlazeOrangeDeer 10 November 2012 06:01:55PM 8 points [-]

And the biologist says, "guys, that's a dog"