Konkvistador comments on Rationality Quotes November 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 10 November 2012 06:54:11PM *  0 points [-]

Eh, no we don't.

See how easy it is to simply assert something? Let's now try actual arguments. First read the comments I linked to in the daughter comment, also feel free to provide links and references to material you think I should read. Then once we've closed the inferential gap and after we restate the other's case without straw manning it we can really start talking.

Comment author: MugaSofer 10 November 2012 07:03:27PM 4 points [-]

You asked. I answered. Whether it is correct is one thing, but you asked what it meant.

Comment author: [deleted] 10 November 2012 07:08:14PM *  3 points [-]

Ok. In the context of the question I assumed you believed in moral progress. Do you?

Comment author: MugaSofer 10 November 2012 07:22:23PM 2 points [-]

I believe we better understand our utility function and how to implement it than most civilizations have historically.

Comment author: DanArmak 18 November 2012 05:36:00PM 1 point [-]

That is probably true, but in my experience this is not what everyone else calls "moral progress". Usually people use "moral progress" to mean "a changing of morals to be closer to my current morals".

Comment author: MugaSofer 18 November 2012 08:05:19PM 0 points [-]

That's what I was arguing against, that the appearance of moral progress (as I defined it) is merely an illusion caused by the CEV of our civilization changing over time.

Note: I responded to my best guess as to your meaning, but could you taboo "morals" for me to be on the safe side?