Eugine_Nier comments on Rationality Quotes November 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 20 November 2012 11:42:39PM 2 points [-]

As has already been pointed out, if you expect the link to be weaker in different societies, than the link is caused by society.

It could also mean that the link is weakened by different social conditions to different extents. It could be a selection effect on the kind of people who move to Vancouver.

In any case, even this statement has politically incorrect implications, namely that we shouldn't be considering Black/Ebonics culture as equal in value to mainstream culture.

Comment author: MugaSofer 21 November 2012 05:15:17PM 0 points [-]

By "caused by society" I was referring more to a lack of role models, higher likelihood of a low-income upbringing, alienation due to societal discrimination etc.

However, I would indeed claim that any culture that is encouraging violent tendencies and discouraging academic success should be improved by any means possible.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 21 November 2012 09:21:13PM 2 points [-]

By "caused by society" I was referring more to a lack of role models, higher likelihood of a low-income upbringing, alienation due to societal discrimination etc.

In that case the argument of yours I quoted in the parent is almost a complete non-sequitor.

Comment author: MugaSofer 22 November 2012 01:49:42AM 0 points [-]

How so? You claimed I was dissing "Black culture".

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 22 November 2012 07:27:41PM 2 points [-]

Oh, sorry. I was dissing "Black culture" and pointing out that my argument followed from what I thought you meant.