RobinZ comments on Open Thread, November 1-15, 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: RobinZ 02 November 2012 08:41:08AM 2 points [-]

Dammit, please tell me that I didn't just waste all that time answering the 2012 Less Wrong Community Survey - I don't want to have to remember all the answers to those tests community members wanted respondents to take if the form I filled out has been taken down...

Comment author: Yvain 02 November 2012 02:12:24PM 8 points [-]

It'll be back up later today and your answers have been saved. Sorry about this.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 02 November 2012 03:44:07PM 3 points [-]

That's a relief.

It's slightly broken in the sense that trying to copy urls (Chrome) consistently led to the cursor being snapped into the answer box and I don't think the url went into the clipboard.

The test gave me ISTP, but the middle two are so close to the nothing much that I might as well be IXXP. A bit of a surprise-- I think of myself as fairly strongly N.

Too late for this year, but "independently wealthy" is an off-key question in the sense that there probably more people who are independently middle-class-- possibly even independently poor. This is people I think of as the petite riche-- they don't have to work as long as they have a middle class or lower life style. I know a few of them. I don't know if they've ever been studied-- they aren't conspicuous. The 5 factors test devoted a whole question to making distinctions in that range, which may be overdoing it.

Comment author: DaFranker 02 November 2012 03:58:44PM *  4 points [-]

I've always thought of "independently wealthy" as "No debt, no need for paid employment, no need to labor away for sustenance and basic needs."

After all, wealth isn't just money, but also (and much more importantly) what you trade money for.

Someone who has no money whatsoever, but owns some land with a house and an army of self-maintaining food-producing robots and has free high-speed internet is just as independently extremely wealthy in my books as the guy who earns $1 000 000 USD a year from investment returns.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 02 November 2012 04:31:51PM 1 point [-]

I think of "independently wealthy" as connoting being able to afford really nice stuff-- big house, frequent travel for fun, etc. without having to work.

Comment author: DaFranker 02 November 2012 04:43:21PM 3 points [-]

Hmm. Seems like the central common empirical cluster might be something like "Above-sufficient personal quality of life without need for work".

Comment author: [deleted] 02 November 2012 09:35:24PM 0 points [-]

Can't wait!

Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 02 November 2012 10:49:01AM 2 points [-]

Got hit by this too. The survey post was on the front page for a bit and then disappeared.

Comment author: Emile 02 November 2012 10:41:33AM 2 points [-]

Yeah, looks like Yvain had a last minute change of mind or something, maybe there was a mistake on one question or something missing (like CFAR needing different questions).

I remember my random number in case it can help transferring.