TimS comments on Please don't vote because democracy is a local optimum - Less Wrong

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Comment author: TimS 16 November 2012 03:09:29AM *  0 points [-]

Two points:

1) My sense was that my side was more the victim of this than your side - in this community. (Insert obvious caveats about self-mindkilledness).

2) More importantly, I think the particular tactics you used in this thread were unlikely to be effective. The meta-level concerns about this community don't fit in an object-level discussion of a particular topic. I forget if you are on the LW-more-inclusive or LW-more-exclusive camp, but I think this is a good analysis of the issue.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 17 November 2012 02:17:43AM 2 points [-]

1) My sense was that my side was more the victim of this than your side - in this community.

My sense is the opposite.

Comment author: [deleted] 16 November 2012 07:58:17AM *  1 point [-]

1) My sense was that my side was more the victim of this than your side - in this community. (Insert obvious caveats about self-mindkilledness).

I prefer not to think of "sides" in this context.

Comment author: TimS 16 November 2012 12:48:15PM *  1 point [-]

Why? There are mutually contradictory philosophical positions at play. Should Eliezer refuse to think of his anti-philosophical zombies position as a "side"?

I readily acknowledge the significant risk of identity entanglement (aka mind-killed). But other than that, what harm is there is acknowledging that certain positions are mutually exclusive?