Konkvistador comments on Detecting Web baloney with your nose? - Less Wrong

-3 Post author: uzalud 10 November 2012 03:50PM

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Comment author: [deleted] 10 November 2012 04:59:12PM *  1 point [-]
  • too much emphasis in text (ALL CAPS, bold, color, exclamations, etc.);
  • walls of text;
  • little concrete data/links/references;
  • too much irrelevant data and references;
  • poor spelling and grammar;
  • obvious half-truths and misinformation.

I count three that apply to Eliezer's sequences and another that can be applied to lukeprog's posts. And in addition to all four of these a fifth (poor spelling) that apply to my own posts.

Comment author: gjm 11 November 2012 03:14:35AM 2 points [-]

Would you care to clarify how much you mean "... so Eliezer and Luke are crackpotty" and how much you mean "... so these aren't a very good guide"? (For the avoidance of doubt, I don't think either argument is obviously crazy, though actually I think Eliezer and Luke aren't crackpots and those are useful crackpot indicators.)

Comment author: TrE 10 November 2012 05:10:55PM *  2 points [-]
  • two types of emphasis at once, such as underlined italic bold text
  • a product to be sold, such as a book written by a mistaken genius
Comment author: BerryPick6 10 November 2012 07:30:27PM 1 point [-]

Which one applies to Luke?

Comment author: [deleted] 10 November 2012 07:35:22PM 3 points [-]

Too much irrelevant data and references.

Comment author: prase 10 November 2012 06:44:47PM 0 points [-]

Which three?

Comment author: [deleted] 10 November 2012 06:46:32PM *  2 points [-]

Well Eliezer was found of italicizing words in his text, doesn't provide references for most of his statements and wrote quit a few walls of text. I mean the sequences are huge.

Comment author: uzalud 10 November 2012 07:23:13PM *  4 points [-]

I wouldn't call Eliezer's emphasis excessive, nor would I call the sequences "walls of text". This is an example of both: http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/yj5053f092.png

My question is: if you didn't know any English, could you still infer that this is more likely to be baloney, or not?

Comment author: [deleted] 10 November 2012 07:36:50PM 1 point [-]

That extreme? Yes it is evidence that the author has low competence and that is evidence of being false.

Comment author: Decius 10 November 2012 09:34:52PM 1 point [-]

Without knowing English, I would suggest that only the excessive repeated bangs and interrogation marks are high-value. The excessive ALL CAPS is likely mid-value, and the lack of paragraph breaks is low-value.