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Comment author: TimS 16 November 2012 09:49:25PM 3 points [-]

Moldbug is actively hostile to libertarian thought - he's more royalist / authoritarian.

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 16 November 2012 10:08:01PM *  2 points [-]

I don't think Moldbug is literally a monarchist. He just does not like the UK Whigs, and what he thinks the UK Whigs morphed into. The monarchism thing is for effect, it's not a serious proposition.

Comment author: MichaelAnissimov 18 November 2012 04:06:17PM *  3 points [-]

Based on my impression, Moldbug is more or less a monarchist. Also, talking as if his main point is that he "doesn't like UK Whigs" is extremely odd. He is an American who presents a wide-ranging set of political observations spanning hundreds of years, contemporary UK politics per se is hardly his concern.

Comment author: Juno_Watt 29 May 2013 10:32:12AM 1 point [-]

Based on my impression, Moldbug is more or less a monarchist

One of the many elephants in the room is that monarchy is a system where it was completely normal for the monarch to impose their religion on their subjects. Moldbug makes a big thing about this tenuous, almost invisible Cathedral thingy, but if he gets his utopia he may well find hismelf dealing with the real thing.

Comment author: RomeoStevens 17 November 2012 12:52:01AM 2 points [-]

I disagree. The use of the term "monarch" might be problematic, but Mencius' conception of useful hierarchical authority models puts CEO and Monarch in a similar space.

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 17 November 2012 01:17:52AM *  2 points [-]

Mencius' conception of useful hierarchical authority models puts CEO and Monarch in a similar space.

In the sense that there is a single guy at the top, I suppose. But then by that logic you can argue Moldbug ought to have no problems with a parlamentary democracy with a prime minister. The point is not that there is a single guy in charge at the top, but the system of incentives that girds the society and gives it shape. There is a big difference between the British monarchy in the Stuart period ("bring back the Stuarts!"), and what Moldbug is actually advocating.

Comment author: RomeoStevens 17 November 2012 01:21:41AM 5 points [-]

The system being the joint-stock model which Mencius claims effective monarchies approximated.