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Comment author: IlyaShpitser 23 November 2012 11:51:05PM *  2 points [-]

Ok. So, helpful fundamental research, as it is currently produced: (a) imposes a heavy opportunity cost, (b) has a low success rate, (c) is generally discovered "too early," leading to waste. What is your proposal for doing better? Can you give me some examples of things like complex numbers discovered in the private sector, by charities, or 'enthusiastic amateurs'?

Incidentally, the success rate of fundamental research for a given finite time horizon k is an untestable quantity. Thus, (b) is a weak complaint. (a) is hard to argue also, because you need to construct counterfactual scenarios that people will believe.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 24 November 2012 12:06:13AM 1 point [-]

Can you give me some examples of things like complex numbers discovered in the private sector, by charities, or 'enthusiastic amateurs'?

Examples that fit Salemicus's narrative in this context aren't non-existent. For example, Fermat was a lawyer by profession and did math as a hobby in his free time. There are many similar examples prior to the 19th century or so. And some major charities have helped fund successful research- one sees a lot of this with a variety of diseases.