DaFranker comments on A definition of wireheading - Less Wrong

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Comment author: brazil84 06 December 2012 12:41:43PM 1 point [-]

Thank you for providing those examples. Of course the OP is free to define the word "wireheading" any way he likes, but I disagree with his choice of definition.

If somebody decides to directly stimulate his brain in order to obtain the good feeling which results, and in fact does so, and in fact gets a good feeling as a result, it should count as "wireheading" by any reasonable definition of "wireheading."

Similarly, the OP mentions heroin use as an example of wireheading but this seems to be a misleading example since most people use and abuse heroin in order to get a good feeling.

Comment author: DaFranker 06 December 2012 01:35:43PM *  0 points [-]

Similarly, the OP mentions heroin use as an example of wireheading but this seems to be a misleading example since most people use and abuse heroin in order to get a good feeling.

I don't quite see how it's a misleading example. They notice something that feels good, associate it with utility, and then keep using it, despite the fact that its only utility is the pleasure they derive from it, and they are sacrificing other utility-values in the process for a total net negative utility.

Comment author: brazil84 08 December 2012 07:30:00AM 0 points [-]

I don't quite see how it's a misleading example. They notice something that feels good, associate it with utility, and then keep using it, despite the fact that its only utility is the pleasure they derive from it, and they are sacrificing other utility-values in the process for a total net negative utility.

Couldn't the same thing said about making use of a sexbot? About eating tasty food which happens to be more expensive and less healthy than other food which is not as tasty?