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<Video is not even systematic data. It's beyond easy to manipulate.> There's zero info in that comment as to the topic; it seems purely polemic to me, since I already agreed to the possibility of manipulating videos etc.
<Oddly enough, Nature doesn't care what vested interests think.> Of course it doesn't, and I never said it would. The whole issue is about which sources to trust, and coming up with some meta-analysis of BigPharma not repressing 100% of what ever doesn't win you a single inch of ground: if that study says BigPharma prefers something they produce to something else by 10%, then mms must be... a fraud? Do they even test mms? You're silent about that, so let me guess: they don't.
<No> Yes, it does mention it in the third sentence, check it out again... weaving the outcome in up front is a telltale sign of insincerity - if you know before, what you'll find out later...
< which minimizes expenses & time> well, maybe they have no money - ever thought about that?
<True of all of the thousands of alternative & traditional medicine, none of which work. They all have fans who 'witnessed the effects'> Interesting, you're so much into "systematic and meta-analysis"... you also tap into some higher knowledge, don't you?
<I am angry at you and people like you> Is that maybe the true reason you're so agitated? Me and my kind... you don't have the slightest clue to what or who I am, but you seem to have an image of "my likes" in your head - let's stick to arguments, okay?
Speaking of which: your links don't seem to cover mms... so why are they in your post? n=1 experiments - the path to truth? You seem not to have tested it, but still know so much about it... how come?
Finally: I never said I was either part of "the solution", nor a "bystander"... so what's the "problem"?
Good. I'm glad you'll never show a manipulated video as evidence again. I hope this has been educational.
Whether they test MMS or not is irrelevant. We have a good idea what Big Pharmai is capable of, and it smashes your conspiracy theory to smithereens.
Or it's simply summarizing the conclusion? Like, in an abstract?
...all the more reason to use an efficient two-stage test process. You are not responding to this point or the alternate explanation, which is fatal to your conspiracy theory and your greatest piece of evidence for MMS being a miracle cure. Why is that?
This is not a response.
You are irresponsibly pushing MMS, a bleach solution, as a miracle cure for real-world problems that kill real people, based on trivially flawed deceptive videos exploiting a mistake a first-year stats student could diagnose after the Bayes theorem section of their stats 101 course. I know everything I need to know about you.
I don't need to test MMS when there is zero evidence of its help and plenty of evidence of its harm. The burden of proof is on MMS proponents to show that drinking poison can be helpful. (This is a burden which has been passed by many therapies such as chemotherapy, incidentally.)
I never said you said that. You are again not responding and evading. That was my summary, and I also explained what the problem was:
Should I add rhetoric or careless reading to my above list of what I know about you?