GDC3 comments on Playing the student: attitudes to learning as social roles - Less Wrong

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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 23 November 2012 04:23:03PM 15 points [-]

the following subroutine: “when an adult takes you aside to talk to you about anything related to ‘living up to your potential’, start crying.”

I find this has enough emotional truth to be funny. I'm not the only person who's found that pep talks work backwards-- they damage motivation rather than improving it.

I think the underlying connection between "living up to your potential" and pep talks is someone charging in, claiming that they know your mind better than you do, and trying to hijack your intrinsic motivations, not that I have boundary issues or anything like that.

Comment author: GDC3 01 December 2012 02:00:03AM 0 points [-]

In my case the usual reason they're demotivating is that I usually know that they think I can do it; they're just spelling out their model of me. Usually the model of me is so bad that I'm led to further discount their opinion, but they're signaling that they care which makes them more likely to be painfully disappointed in me. Basically those motivation talks are more than one kind of legitimate bad news. I don't need a script to be upset by them, but sometimes scripts make me care more. Childhood is one big lesson that your purpose in life is to impress and entertain adults. It can be very hard to shake.