Vaniver comments on A Parable On Obsolete Ideologies - Less Wrong

113 Post author: Yvain 13 May 2009 10:51PM

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Comment author: Daniel_Burfoot 14 May 2009 02:02:51PM -1 points [-]

I hope when you guys get done beating up on theism, you'll take on a real challenge and go up against the SWPL bloc. That religion is far more dangerous and far more powerful than poor old Judeo-Christianity, which isn't even able to order scientists around anymore. Maybe Eliezer can debate Nancy Hopkins?

Comment author: Z_M_Davis 14 May 2009 10:12:45PM 8 points [-]

That religion

Please taboo religion. If you want to argue that a certain cluster of beliefs commonly held by upper-middle-class white American liberals is systematically mistaken in ways analogous to religious beliefs, and that this has harmful consequences, do come out and say this explicitly, and maybe we could have a productive discussion about the actual issues at hand. But gratuitous misuse of the world religion to describe positions you dislike just functions as a semantic stopsign. Actual religions have things like deities, and prayers, and rituals.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 14 May 2009 10:56:52PM 3 points [-]

Wiki articles for Rationalist taboo and Semantic stopsign.

Comment author: SoullessAutomaton 14 May 2009 10:44:59PM 3 points [-]

Assuming a charitable interpretation, I think he was being somewhat tongue-in-cheek with the use of "religion" there.

Comment author: Annoyance 15 May 2009 04:26:56PM 2 points [-]

Actual religions have things like deities, and prayers, and rituals.

No, not necessarily. The usage you've criticized is perfectly compatible with the correct definition of the word. Please familiarize yourself with that definition before offering further criticism.

Taking a word and re-defining it into a 'semantic stopsign' doesn't help anything or anyone, except confusion and causes that can be aided by confusion.