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I assume most people find this statement offensive and objectionable. If you are such a person, can you provide a rational justification for your response? It seems to me that the father is simply making a set of empirical claims about reality, and so at worst the statement is just inaccurate.
Also, imagine a father telling his son "You need to get a good job and learn how to dress well, or else no woman will want to marry you." Is this statement similarly objectionable? If so, why?
This comment is directed to the LW commentariat, not just Daniel_Burfoot.
Fill in the blank with responses covering reasonable prior probability mass:
I'm guessing example #4 was supposed to have a character named "Son"?
Yup, thanks.
All my answers would be variants on:
Do you mean these are the answers you expect the father in the scenario would give, or the answers you personally would give? The former is what I'm after; eliciting the latter is not the point the grandparent.
The former.
Personally, I (and I assume many others) would have a drastically different response than any of these four.
Parent: You need to [cook/clean, job/dress well], or what person would want to marry you? Child: Why should I learn these skills for the benefit of someone else, rather than for myself?
Regardless of the interest or not in marriage, these are skills/actions that are useful for anyone, marriage-oriented or not, to have, simply to live as a socially well-rounded adult. (Obviously, alternate options are available, such as getting such a well-paying job that you can pay for a maid/chef, or some alternate situation in which "getting a good job" is unnecessary to your well-being, as well.)
How old are Son and Daughter? I'd expect very different responses if they are 11 than if they're 17. (BTW, Father would sound to me like much more of an asshole in the former case than in the latter.)