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Comment author: thomblake 26 November 2012 07:14:05PM 24 points [-]

For me, this post is not doing any favors for the "women's experiences are fundamentally different" camp. Most of these sound like stories from my own life. Of course, "Why are your characters always girls?" is probably a harder question for a boy than a girl.

I'd guess these mostly work as stories of "growing up geeky".

The only ones that didn't resonate were the last one about not playing M:tG anymore (probably since I've never stopped appearing like a geek) and the "Star wars characters are mostly male", which does seem worth mentioning.

MLP:FiM is probably a good available example of the reverse phenomenon. The positions of power are occupied by females. There are very few male characters (though a significantly more even ratio than Star Wars), and they seem to be shoehorned in as male stereotypes. I suggest male readers ruminate on this aspect of the show until it seems a bit disturbing. And then notice that females can experience this when watching most things.

Comment author: woodside 26 November 2012 07:35:27PM 13 points [-]

For those that don't want to do a google search, MLP:FiM = My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic (I had to look it up)

Is this one of those kid shows that adults watch these days? A show that a decent fraction of male LW readers know enough about to "ruminate on"?

I already have to navigate through my social world with the handicap of counting a work of Harry Potter fanfiction among my favorite books. If I end up owning seasons of My Little Pony because of this site I'm going to be very upset.

Comment author: MugaSofer 27 November 2012 05:05:21PM 4 points [-]

Is this one of those kid shows that adults watch these days?

Yup. Try watching a few episodes, it's pretty good.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 30 November 2012 07:59:19PM 3 points [-]

Start at the beginning. Don't throw the dice with the more recent stuff.

Comment author: thomblake 26 November 2012 08:24:30PM *  3 points [-]

Updating usefulness of the abbreviation. My initial consideration was whether I should just abbreviate it MLP, since of course people would know I was referring to Friendship is Magic. It gets enough references around here I figured it was in the popular consciousness.

In my opinion, it's not an exceptionally good show. Though from what I've read so far, Fallout:Equestria is awesome.

I already have to navigate through my social world with the handicap of counting a work of Harry Potter fanfiction among my favorite books. If I end up owning seasons of My Little Pony because of this site I'm going to be very upset.

Find better friends!

Comment author: Bugmaster 27 November 2012 05:47:16PM 2 points [-]

Though from what I've read so far, Fallout:Equestria...

I have never heard of Fallout:Equestria, but I started laughing out loud as soon as I read the title. Is this the authoritative source for the story ?

War. War never changes...

Comment author: MugaSofer 27 November 2012 06:23:37PM 4 points [-]

Not sure about definitive, but it seems to be complete.

F:E is surprisingly, serious, gritty, and well-written. It's also longer than War and Peace.

Comment author: Strange7 27 November 2012 12:51:17AM 1 point [-]

First, share your respective definitions of "better" with regard to friends.

Comment author: thomblake 30 November 2012 02:46:44PM 2 points [-]

Not exhaustive, but "friends for which liking awesome things is not a handicap" is a good start.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 30 November 2012 06:34:02PM 2 points [-]

Also, look for friends who are at least happy for your sake if you're enthusiastic about something non-harmful.

Comment author: TorqueDrifter 26 November 2012 08:12:58PM *  5 points [-]

The show is actually fairly popular amongst the male internet nerd demographic. The original creator, Lauren Faust, was a well-liked animator beforehand, and something about it just caught the popular imagination ('nerdy' references, characters and animation, well-timed slanderous editorials, etc.). There's a huge fandom that constantly produces ludicrous streams of stuff.

There's been some discussion of it on LW, and I expect there's a not-insignificant population of fans here. Or "bronies", as some style themselves.

Comment author: Tenoke 27 November 2012 04:53:14PM 1 point [-]

I already have to navigate through my social world with the handicap of counting a work of Harry Potter fanfiction among my favorite books. If I end up owning seasons of My Little Pony because of this site I'm going to be very upset.

Couldn't have said it any better.

Comment author: FiftyTwo 18 December 2012 06:16:04AM 0 points [-]

Solution make friends read it.

Comment author: thomblake 26 November 2012 08:40:00PM 0 points [-]

I already have to navigate through my social world with the handicap of counting a work of Harry Potter fanfiction among my favorite books. If I end up owning seasons of My Little Pony because of this site I'm going to be very upset.

By the way, Friendship is Science in Chapter 64 of HPMoR is a reference to Friendship is Magic.