= 27d567bc2d48d9f40e9ccc20ea370b15)
DaFranker comments on LW Women- Minimizing the Inferential Distance - Less Wrong
You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.
= 783df68a0f980790206b9ea87794c5b6)
Loading…= b715d02e85f7b3b4ae65ca3d3e450868)
Subscribe to RSS Feed
Powered by Reddit
= f037147d6e6c911a85753b9abdedda8d)
You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.
Comments (1254)
The misogyny mostly comes from the fact that this situation happens much more often to girls than to boys (i.e. boy-groups are much more likely to have one of their members ask out a girl on a dare than the reverse, along with associated connotations and social implications).
I also assume there are implied feelings of having to reject a boy because he asked you out on a dare, on pain of looking like a slut (or an "easy girl" in slightly less rude terms), while a boy being asked out by a girl wouldn't have the same subtext.
To compare, in older age groups it is much more common for girl-groups to dare one of their members to do something sexually suggestive or provocative in front of a boy (e.g. faking a boob slip or opening up their legs while wearing a skirt) than the other way around, at least in my dataset.
My (admittedly limited) experience reveals no such trend, and indeed suggests the opposite. There is likely a great deal of variation.
I don't know why you think that is true, I guess. Experience, probably, but in my experience I've never seen either happen.
I read a long discussion of bullying by girls in school, and it looked as though the version committed by girls was usually inviting another girl to a party or somesuch-- but the offer was a setup for humiliation.
Possibly other (and possibly fictional) sources: girl bullies telling their victim that a boy liked her and pushing her to ask him out.
I have had the exact same thing happen to me, but gender-reversed. I may be unusual in this respect.
AFAICT, the reasons why I would expect such an episode to be more common than the gender-reversed version (and both come more from stereotypes than from any actual first-hand evidence -- I'm not even that sure they apply to real life) are 1) boys tend to be more overtly nasty to each other (e.g. asking embarrassing things on a dare) than girls do, and 2) boys tend to be less likely to turn down dates. And I wouldn't slap the label “misogynist” on either of those.