NancyLebovitz comments on LW Women- Minimizing the Inferential Distance - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Daniel_Burfoot 24 November 2012 05:55:33PM 27 points [-]

Words from my father’s mouth, growing up: “You need to be able to cook and keep a clean house, or what man would want to marry you?”

I assume most people find this statement offensive and objectionable. If you are such a person, can you provide a rational justification for your response? It seems to me that the father is simply making a set of empirical claims about reality, and so at worst the statement is just inaccurate.

Also, imagine a father telling his son "You need to get a good job and learn how to dress well, or else no woman will want to marry you." Is this statement similarly objectionable? If so, why?

Comment author: [deleted] 26 November 2012 06:25:54AM *  17 points [-]

"You need to get a good job and learn how to dress well, or else no woman will want to marry you."

I would endorse giving this advice if I thought marriage was a good deal for men. Currently I plan to strongly advise my future sons against marriage. I'm unsure whether to advise my daugthers to marry or not, since it will give them greater power over their partners which may destablize such relationships.

I think its pretty crappy that cohabitation laws are now basically converging with marriage laws. I wish there was a "state please get your grubby hands out of my romantic relationships" wavier I could sign.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 27 November 2012 12:47:05AM 1 point [-]

Currently I plan to strongly advise my future sons against marriage.

Does this imply that you favor (or at least are neutral about) long term relationships, but are opposed to marriage?

Do you think marriage itself is a bad deal for men, or do the problems mostly show up with divorce?

Comment author: wnoise 27 November 2012 05:08:43PM 4 points [-]

Altering the structure of divorce alters the payoff-matrix for behaviors inside the marriage itself.