Konkvistador comments on LW Women- Minimizing the Inferential Distance - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Nornagest 28 November 2012 12:53:06AM *  6 points [-]

You have a Baron? We just talk things out over the campfire while pounding willow bark and sucking the marrow out of aurochs bones.

Comment author: [deleted] 28 November 2012 09:36:40AM 4 points [-]

I would say having a Baron is more civilized than having a popularity contest. I bet the latter is how things around the stone age camp-fire where worked out.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 28 November 2012 07:02:43PM 9 points [-]

You know what it's like living with popularity contests Have you lived with a Baron?

Comment author: Nornagest 28 November 2012 09:57:37AM 2 points [-]

My post was not meant as an endorsement of that lifestyle, nor as a condemnation; I was mainly trying to point out that it existed and was quite different from most stratified post-Neolithic social systems. Honestly, we don't know enough about what the average Paleolithic social structure looked like to advocate effectively for it, even if we wanted to.

Comment author: [deleted] 28 November 2012 10:04:01AM 4 points [-]

Honestly, we don't know enough about what the average Paleolithic social structure looked like to advocate effectively for it, even if we wanted to.

I agree with this. Even modern examples of tribes with tech not far above that level aren't representative due to marginal terrain and interaction with other groups.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 28 November 2012 04:43:49PM 2 points [-]

Also, modern paleolithic societies might be different from early paleolithic societies due to change over time-- it would surprise me if there wasn't gradual improvement in their tools, and there would also be random cultural changes.

Comment author: Multiheaded 28 November 2012 09:43:09AM 1 point [-]

It is near-impossible to compare the space of all possible human "barons" with the space of all possible human "popularity contests" and decide which one is more "civilized" across multiple criteria.

Comment author: CharlieSheen 28 November 2012 09:51:52AM *  3 points [-]

Apply this argument to the politics of suffering Konkvistador talked about.