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Comment author: beoShaffer 15 February 2013 07:13:20AM *  5 points [-]

It may be that what I'm thinking of here is the old Usenet annoyance at people who posted merely to agree with another poster — "posting 'me too' like some brain-dead AOLer", as Weird Al put it.

One of my first reactions to the relevant part of the OP was thinking of this phenomena and feeling some sympathy for the Usenet old hands. I've been on forums were "me too" posts are common, and while they can sometimes be nice I also think that they can get annoying/distract from useful comment.

Comment author: Error 15 February 2013 01:22:36PM *  10 points [-]

Usenet old hand speaking: Me too!

The norm I've noticed around here is to upvote for agreeing and general warm fuzzies, but not to downvote for disagreement alone. Downvoting seems to be reserved for thoughts that are not merely incorrect, but broken in some way. (logically fallacious, for example)

For my own posts, I find I appreciate an upvote as if it were explicit encouragement. I'm wondering if this mental reaction is common, and if so, whether it's limited to the males here. (as a pseudo-"score", I could see this being the case) Perhaps the karma system produces more warm fuzzies for the average man and little-to-nothing for the average woman. With karma being the primary form of social encouragement, that could make for a very different experience between genders.

Request for anecdotal evidence here.

For my own part, I like the karma system precisely because it provides a way to indicate appreciation without cluttering threads with content-free approval posts. That is probably the usenetter in me speaking. (tangent: I miss the days when usenet was where all the interesting conversations happened. Oh well.)

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 15 February 2013 02:47:26PM 7 points [-]

I may be a somewhat atypical woman, but I appreciate upvotes. I do find it frustrating if I post something I think is substantial and it only gets upvotes. I'm here for conversation, not just approval.

Comment author: Error 15 February 2013 03:32:32PM 2 points [-]

Hrm. I think I agree on the frustration bit, but I'm unsure what to do about it.

Datapoint: I almost didn't post this because it felt too me-too-ish. If you hadn't been responding to me, I probably wouldn't have.

Comment author: bbleeker 15 February 2013 05:01:13PM 3 points [-]

I'm a woman, and I feel exactly as you do, so it isn't limited to males.

Comment author: jdinkum 15 February 2013 06:44:39PM 2 points [-]

I just don't understand the downvote/upvote thing, especially if the norm is/should be for broken thoughts.

When I get downvoted (or upvoted), I often don't get a comment explaining why. So it's unclear where I'm broken (or what I'm doing right). That's frustrating and doesn't help me increase my value to the community.

It'd be nice to have downvoters supply a reason why, in order to improve the original.

Comment author: drethelin 15 February 2013 11:27:14PM 3 points [-]

A downvote without explanation can basically be translated as "Lurk Moar, Noob"

When I downvote without explanation it's because I want less of what I'm downvoting AND I don't want the forums to be cluttered with explanations of what should be obvious.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 27 February 2013 04:01:51PM 1 point [-]

I sometimes downvote without explanation if the post was highly upvoted and I thought it was merely decent.