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Comment author: V_V 10 April 2013 11:29:28PM *  22 points [-]

A:

The article about Larsson also has a bit about his partner's contributions not being credited to her, which seems to be typical of man-woman partnerships. Besides seeing it in other stories, I've experienced it in my own life.

Beware of hasty generalization. The fact that you have been in an abusive relationship and you've read similar stories doesn't imply that these relationships are typical.

You might think my ex was a sociopath, but no -- he's a normal male, working as a university professor.

The intersection between the set of sociopaths and the set of university professors is not necessarily empty. However, claiming that this behavior is normal among males is outright sexist defamation. It's like, after sharing a story of being robbed by a black person you said: "You might think my robber was an antisocial person, but no -- they are a normal black person"

B:

I'm not sure what you describe as a body/mind dichotomy really makes sense or is the proper way of describing your experiences. What you describe seems to be known as egodystonicity, which is a quite common phenomenon to a certain extent, but can potentially become pathological.

She has come to regret what she did, but I’m not sure she’s aware of the dynamics behind what happened, including the patriarchal inequity and her brain’s imprecise narrative about making my brother well-behaved.

Receiving abuse doesn't justify committing abuse.

This article, “Being Porn,” refers to women internalizing and enacting men’s porn views, rather than trying to enlighten men so they make better use of resources and don’t become or stay addicted to porn.

That's a patronizing view of male sexuality.
Consider it's reversal: instead of trying to fullfill women preferences (such as preference for high status mates), men should try to enlighten women so they internalize and enact men’s porn views (such as engaging in casual intercourse with random strangers).

For example: On the HLN channel, [ ... ]

Beware of fictional evidence.

creepiness as exclusion or dislike of low-status or unattractive persons [ ... ] Given all my data, I can say approximately that identification of creepiness is a brain making predictions about someone’s brain (could even be one’s own brain, being introspective about whether you’re being creepy) running on a stupid/unenlightened/unwise apologetic program that could possibly escalate into actions unpleasant or of low utility to the target and/or to him/her/one’s self (e.g. energy-wasting, abuse, heartbreak, etc.).

You describe creepiness essentially as a fear response. That's not mutually exclusive of being creeped by of low-status or unattractive persons. In fact, evidence suggests that people tend to instinctively trust attractive and high-status individuals and fear unattractive and low-status individuals.

Comment author: Dias 10 April 2013 11:48:20PM 2 points [-]

For example: On the HLN channel, [ ... ]

Beware of fictional evidence.

For the benefit of non-American readers: is HLN fiction? I was under the impression it was a news program.

Comment author: TimS 11 April 2013 12:28:52AM *  10 points [-]

According to wikipedia, HLN used to be the Headline News part of CNN. So it is supposed to be real news.

But looking at its home page shows that V_V is probably right that there is a lot of sensationalizing going on - P(sensationalizing | Nancy Grace is involved) is essentially the definition of (1 - epsilon).

Comment author: V_V 11 April 2013 12:00:18AM *  4 points [-]

I don't know, I assumed the OP was referring to some crime show like Law and Order, but in fact that might have been some "true story" type of program.
If this is the case, then it should be noted that

  • these stories are often fictionalized to some extent

  • even if the story was depicted in an accurate and unbiased way, it doesn't mean that is was typical enough to use it as evidence to update your beliefs.