Sarokrae comments on LW Women Submissions: On Misogyny - Less Wrong

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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 12 April 2013 02:06:31PM 2 points [-]

That's very interesting. Did you turn up anything else that surprised you? After you found that "skin crawling" was unwanted sexual arousal, did that affect your ideas and/or behavior?

Comment author: Sarokrae 12 April 2013 03:41:29PM 4 points [-]

Well this is in the context of a long period of introspection on the theme of "When it comes to moral considerations, how much is my system 1 me?" The conclusion is "not very", which is one of the things I changed my mind about fairly recently. (If instinct wants to sleep with someone but reason doesn't, it is preferable for me to not sleep with them. This probably doesn't sound like a surprising conclusion, but I was confused for a long time.)

This observation was basically consistent with the way my ideas were developing, since I developed those ideas concurrently to developing luminosity. I'm afraid I can't tell the direction of causation between the two things, or whether there is any.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 12 April 2013 08:12:41PM 4 points [-]

(If instinct wants to sleep with someone but reason doesn't, it is preferable for me to not sleep with them. This probably doesn't sound like a surprising conclusion, but I was confused for a long time.)

Actually, I'm not surprised that someone could take a while to figure that out-- there's what I call the romantic fallacy (romantic in the philosophical sense, though it happens to overlap with common usage this time) that people's unthought impulses are sacred.

To put it mildly, what (if anything) is sacred about people is a complicated question.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 13 April 2013 07:00:22AM 3 points [-]

Actually, I'm not surprised that someone could take a while to figure that out-- there's what I call the romantic fallacy (romantic in the philosophical sense, though it happens to overlap with common usage this time) that people's unthought impulses are sacred.

The frequency with which people are given the advise "be yourself" in our society doesn't help.

Comment author: Document 09 June 2013 01:05:37AM 0 points [-]

(If instinct wants to sleep with someone but reason doesn't, it is preferable for me to not sleep with them. This probably doesn't sound like a surprising conclusion, but I was confused for a long time.)

The conclusion itself is something most people here agree with, but that doesn't mean your reaching it was inevitable. The space of human beliefs is wide.