TheOtherDave comments on LW Women Submissions: On Misogyny - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 12 April 2013 08:07:33PM *  2 points [-]

and similarly low confidence in the negation of the latter [“Deep in their hearts, all men desire to torture women. Some of them are just too afraid of legal consequences.”]

On the off chance that you're speaking personally rather than hypothetically (I hope not)... What??? FWIW, I am a man and, while I can't see arbitrarily deep into my heart, I have no desire to torture women (or anyone else, actually) so far as I can see, and I seldom think about possible legal consequences of my actions. Now I might be lying about that (so you have to take my word for it), or maybe I do have such a desire but it's so deep in my heart that I can't see it (but how would you make that belief pay rent?), but still... I'd find it appalling that anyone would give a non-negligible probability that “Deep in their hearts, all men [emphasis as in the original] desire to torture women”, for any value of deep that wouldn't make that statement useless-whether-true-or-false. (BTW, Gandhi was also a man, wasn't he?)

Comment author: TheOtherDave 12 April 2013 08:44:02PM 2 points [-]

Your hope has been realized! Hooray!

That said, I also recommend that if you are going to spend very much time around women who have been severely traumatized by their experiences with abusive men, you prepare yourself to be appalled.