NancyLebovitz comments on LW Women Submissions: On Misogyny - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Dahlen 13 April 2013 08:23:43AM *  2 points [-]

What should I understand from the instant negative karma response? That I shouldn't have asked the question, I suppose. If I shouldn't have asked the question, then... I'm supposed to see a new thread in Discussion getting 300 replies in 3 days, remember the same thing happened with the previous threads in the series, and go, "Oh... nothing unusual at all, no special reaction to this topic.". Or, I'm expected to know the answer just like everybody else does, and therefore by asking the question I'm actually expressing an opinion on everybody who commented and I'm not actually looking for an answer.

But I am. Getting worked up about this topic could mean a number of things with respect to your attitude towards gender issues, and I don't know the bunch of you well enough to say which is the prevailing explanation. Hence the question. And I suppose now there's an additional question about why it is so taboo to ask this, which I'm also genuinely interested in.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 13 April 2013 01:26:47PM 19 points [-]

Why do LWers seem to get their collective panties in a bunch every time gender issues / women are mentioned?

Your phrasing implies that people are overreacting and being ridiculous. A more neutral phrasing-- something like "Why are people so angry about gender issues?" or "Why do gender issues get so much attention?"-- probably would have gone over better.

Comment author: Dahlen 14 April 2013 02:45:01AM -2 points [-]

Heh. I went with that word choice because it's a funny little idiom. I like English idioms; my language is not as entertaining in this aspect. But you're right, it isn't optimized for upvotes.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 14 April 2013 03:46:13PM 1 point [-]

It's sounds like you ran afoul of a subcutlural difference-- one of the aspects of the anti-racism and related feminism memeplex is assuming that what metaphors people use tell you a lot about what they're actually thinking, and in particular that hostility and culpable ignorance get revealed that way.

Comment author: [deleted] 14 April 2013 08:04:05PM 1 point [-]

‘Using “lame” as an insult is ableist!’ (By which logic, using “bad” as an insult is binarist.)

Comment author: TheOtherDave 14 April 2013 10:02:40PM 2 points [-]

Not quite, in that many more people understand "lame" to describe someone who can't easily walk than understand "bad" to describe someone who exists on a gender binary, and what I expect people to actually understand by a word does have something to do with what words I chose.