Jack comments on LW Women Entries- Creepiness - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Jack 28 April 2013 10:39:53PM 17 points [-]

Then all I hear about the internal experience of women is that interacting with men is uncomfortable and even frightening.

I can only think that what you're hearing from women about interacting with men is subject to a really odd selection effect.

Comment author: maia 29 April 2013 03:32:28PM 12 points [-]

Yes. Every time I read a post like this, I wonder "Where are all these horrible overtly sexist men? I have never spoken to one." I can't think of a single time I have witnessed or been subject to a man's overtly sexist behavior, let alone sexual harassment or assault.

But then, I might just be really fortunate. I don't have a good idea of the proportions here.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 29 April 2013 04:38:00PM 4 points [-]

I'm willing to bet there are regional variations.

Comment author: maia 29 April 2013 05:06:07PM 4 points [-]

Oh, without a doubt. I also live in an enclave of (socially) liberal well-educated people and don't get out much except to hang out with more liberal well-educated people. So there's that.

Comment author: drethelin 29 April 2013 03:42:35PM 5 points [-]

I think environment and priming play a large factor. If you're comfortable somewhere than it's easier to shrug off potentially annoying behavior, and if you're somewhere you're expecting sexism (or simply primed to expect it from men in general) I think you're likely to notice it a lot more. I think this is part of the reason you get some people who are like "Ugh I see sexism everywhere it's horrible" and others go "I haven't noticed this so much"

Comment author: maia 29 April 2013 03:50:31PM *  6 points [-]

Note that I was careful to say "overt" sexism. I haven't noticed anything that would make me say, "That person just did something obviously, unequivocally wrong." But I do notice sexism a fair amount, it's just usually of the "That person doesn't know any better/ is under the influence of a society that has subtly sexist beliefs, and I could very well make the same mistake when not paying attention" variety.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 29 April 2013 02:04:06AM 11 points [-]

I wouldn't say odd, I'd say rather predictable. The unproblematic happy path is unremarkable, and rarely gets remarked on.