TimS comments on LW Women Entries- Creepiness - Less Wrong

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Comment author: TimS 29 April 2013 12:46:16AM 3 points [-]

People who don't believe that beliefs should pay rent? People who think math interferes with understanding reality?

People who think Eliezer is wrong about MWI, and that his wrongness is likely to interfere with raising the sanity line?

Comment author: gwern 29 April 2013 12:56:37AM 7 points [-]

People who don't believe that beliefs should pay rent? People who think math interferes with understanding reality?

Those might work.

People who think Eliezer is wrong about MWI, and that his wrongness is likely to interfere with raising the sanity line?

I seem to see more criticism of that than support.

Comment author: TimS 29 April 2013 01:14:31AM *  -1 points [-]

I seem to see more criticism of that than support.

Right. On LW, thinking Eliezer is wrong on QM and that it matters is a clown suit belief.

There's no reason to think a belief is right just because it is a clown suit belief in a particular context.

Edit: Gwern, I think I misread you, so this post accurately states my position, but probably isn't responsive to your comment.

Comment author: atorm 29 April 2013 02:10:54AM 9 points [-]

You think that those of us who disagree with EY on QM look ridiculous to most members of LW? I think gwern was saying that criticism of EY's stance is the majority opinion on this website

Comment author: TimS 29 April 2013 02:17:49AM 4 points [-]

I think that the locally respectable position is that EY's mistakes describing QM don't matter. I think the purpose of describing QM was to articulate a position in philosophy-of-science.

Whether EY made particular errors is irrelevant to the philosophy-of-science point. And any errors in the philosophy-of-science point are probably irrelevant to raising the sanity line.

Comment author: atorm 29 April 2013 02:45:25AM 7 points [-]

Oh, well-clarified. Thank you.

I personally find EY's arrogance regarding MWI off-putting, but I suppose I stuck around the site anyway, so I don't know whether it's driving away others.

Comment author: ikrase 29 April 2013 02:10:53AM 1 point [-]

yeah. I... antipredict that EY is wrong on QM, but don't expect it to matter.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 29 April 2013 12:48:15PM 2 points [-]

People who don't believe that beliefs should pay rent? People who think math interferes with understanding reality?

Are there such people? On LessWrong??

Comment author: TimS 30 April 2013 02:45:56AM *  1 point [-]

We drove off the most recent one. But it took an unfortunate long time.