Thomas comments on [META] Retributive downvoting: Why? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Thomas 27 November 2012 01:40:07PM *  -2 points [-]

Here, for example.

I will not discuss it further, to avoid who knows who, who does not permit a shadow of a doubt in "settled topics" like Goedel's theorems or Climate change or anything and downvotes accordingly.

Comment author: ChristianKl 29 November 2012 01:39:34PM *  1 point [-]

If you do challenge the mainstream position in a "settled topic" your post should be longer than one sentence.

I have personally never read the proof of Gödel's theorem. I believe that it works because I trust in the authority of the mathematical community. I don't know to which extend the property of finitness is important for the proof. If you make such a claim in a "settled topics", it's your burden to explain to me why it's important.

If I read that discussion I come away with thinking that JoshuaZ knows what he's talking about. I don't know whether you understand the math that's involved on deep level. A lot of people without deep mathematical understanding can make a claim to challenge Gödel the way you did.

Comment author: Thomas 30 November 2012 12:18:29PM 1 point [-]

You should read more carefully.

I am not saying that Goedel's theorem does not hold. I am saying it is irrelevant for the finite sets.

Comment author: Desrtopa 27 November 2012 02:04:00PM *  1 point [-]

I'm a bit confused that you chose this as an example, because he's clearly responding to you there rather than the other way around.

Comment author: Thomas 27 November 2012 02:37:43PM *  -1 points [-]
Comment author: Desrtopa 27 November 2012 02:40:27PM *  1 point [-]

In that case, I would guess you were downvoted either by Will Sawin, or (more likely,) one of the people who upvoted him for correcting you.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 27 November 2012 07:46:09PM 0 points [-]

Although note that in that case, although Will did find a coherent way of getting that sort of probability, if anything it underscores that Thomas's essential point there was correct: My probability estimate in that context was at best weird and more likely just poorly thought out, probably because of overcorrecting my overconfidence.