Decius comments on Causal Universes - Less Wrong

60 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 29 November 2012 04:08AM

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Comment author: Decius 29 November 2012 05:33:30PM 0 points [-]

Of course, there's no reason to strictly believe that what you thought was a future version of yourself wasn't either lying or a simulacrum of some kind, or that any note you receive after intending to send a note back to yourself hasn't been intercepted and subverted.

Which leads to interesting stories when those expectations are subverted, but only after they've been established.

Comment author: TorqueDrifter 29 November 2012 05:49:11PM 0 points [-]

True! That's why every twelve-year-old establishes elaborate passphrases for identifying alternate / time-displaced selves.

Comment author: Decius 30 November 2012 01:39:33AM 0 points [-]

What makes you think that elaborate passphrases are uncountably infinite? Any loop that includes a 'we await confirmation that the plan has succeeded before we implement it' clause at the beginning is virtually foolproof. In order to foil such a plan, one needs to overcome the adversary, prevent them from signaling failure (ever!), and then manage to signal success. (So that the plan is set into motion.)