Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on Causal Universes - Less Wrong

60 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 29 November 2012 04:08AM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 01 December 2012 01:05:22AM 2 points [-]

"Death" is the absence of a future self that is continuous with your present self. I don't know exactly what constitutes "continuous" but it clearly is not the identity of individual particles. It may require continuity of causal derivation, for example.

Comment author: someonewrongonthenet 03 December 2012 12:29:08AM *  13 points [-]

Why?

Upload yourself to a computer. You've got a copy on the computer, you've got a physical body. Kill the physical body a few milliseconds after upload.

Repeat, except now kill the physical body a few milliseconds before the upload.

Do you mean to define the former situation as involving a "Death" because a few milliseconds worth of computations were lost, but the latter situation as simple a transfer?

I don't think the word "death" really applies anymore when we are talking at the level of physical systems, any more than "table" or "chair" would. Those constructs don't cross over well into (real or imaginary) physics.

Comment author: CronoDAS 01 December 2012 06:19:50AM *  2 points [-]

(Even the billiard ball model of "classical" chemistry is enough to eliminate "individual particles" as the source of personal identity; you aren't made of the same atoms you were a year ago, because of eating, respiration, and other biological processes.)

Comment author: MugaSofer 01 December 2012 06:44:56AM 4 points [-]

There could be special "mind particles" in you brain and I can't believe I just said that.

Comment author: CronoDAS 01 December 2012 11:45:55PM 0 points [-]

(::shrug:: Well, that does seem logically possible, but it doesn't seem to be the way our biology works.)

Comment author: MugaSofer 03 December 2012 04:26:06AM 4 points [-]