DaFranker comments on 2012 Survey Results - Less Wrong

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Comment author: DaFranker 29 November 2012 09:03:06PM *  1 point [-]

3 vs 16 seems like quite a difference, even allowing for the small sample size. Is this consistent with the larger population?

Might be close enough to assume it's due to the small sample:

Recent statistics from the Netherlands indicate that about 1 in 12,000 natal males undergo sex-reassignment and about 1 in 34,000 natal females. Source: Transgender Issues: A Fact Sheet

No idea how reliable those numbers are, nor how they compare with elsewhere in the world. The main website that hosts that PDF should have more complete data that could be cross-referenced, if someone wants to take the time to do that.

Comment author: thomblake 29 November 2012 10:15:32PM 1 point [-]

Interesting. Going to the source of some of those numbers, it doesn't look like there was clear specification of what they meant by "sexual orientation", so that line of the chart is actually entirely meaningless to me. Anyone have a good guess as to how people would have answered?

Comment author: DaFranker 29 November 2012 10:26:46PM *  1 point [-]

AFAICT It seems to be answered in terms of the sex of their partners post-transition, i.e. a hetero MTF would prefer sexually-male partners.

The fact that the 59% stat for history of rape is symmetrical for MTF and FTM really bugs me, though. It seems to imply weird causal arrows pointing in completely opposite directions depending on whether you were originally male or female, based on my prior knowledge.

Which seems very scary, because it could also imply that MTFs are a dozen decibels more likely to be targets of rape than average females. Now I wonder if that has been taken into account when looking at the mental health stats.

Comment author: thomblake 30 November 2012 02:41:23PM 1 point [-]

Yeah, somewhere in there are some pretty disturbing violent crime stats. A notable proportion of violent crime in one country was towards trans people.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 30 November 2012 06:32:07PM 1 point [-]