Konkvistador comments on 2012 Survey Results - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 02 December 2012 09:35:42AM *  10 points [-]

You don't think that the "birther controversy" was racist in nature?

No.

You think this whole thing is a coincidence?

Racists do not generally like Obama because he has an African father. This is incredibly surprising? Do a google search for racist epithets and say Condoleezza Rice.

Are you really saying that if Democrats had a white candidate on election day 2016 and Republicans a black one, you wouldn't find the appropriate slurs online?

You think this type of thing doesn't happen?

Of course it does. Do you have evidence it happens often enough to be a concern rather than pointing out anecdotes? Also what has this got to do with Republicans rather than American society as a whole?

You think this is a complete fabrication?

No why would I? A mere two decades before that there was basically a new splinter party just on the segregation issue.

This seems like a complete failure of critical thinking.

I will say the same. You seem to have utterly failed at the principle of charity if not outright straw manned my position.

I am not an American. I'm not a Republican. Yet the examples you picked seem to target a CNN caricature of a Fox News viewer. Why did you pattern match me to that? That this post got up voted to 3 karma before my response suggests filling a post with solid partisan digs can be a good way to gain votes on LessWrong and is an indication of us suffering a lack of diversity.

If this isn't what you're saying, could you say plainly what it is you believe and why?

I believe most people in America and the West have on a conscious level an irrational aversion to racism two or three orders of magnitude out of proportion to the actual utilitarian damage it causes. This is partially caused by virtue signalling spirals.

The opportunity costs of this are non-trivial.

Comment author: Alicorn 02 December 2012 05:36:38PM 4 points [-]

epitaphs

Epithets. An epitaph is something else.

Comment author: [deleted] 02 December 2012 08:01:19PM *  8 points [-]

Thank you for the correction! I've put the words in my Anki deck. English is not my native language so I often make mistakes, please if you ever spot an error don't hesitate to comment or PM me.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 02 December 2012 06:27:57PM 4 points [-]

If I were interested in racist epitaphs, I'm not sure I could find them on Google.
Googling for "racist epitaphs" as was suggested actually mostly turns up articles on racist epithets.
Googling for "racist epitaphs -epithets" also mostly turns up incorrect references to racist epithets, perhaps unsurprisingly.
"racist epitaphs -epithets tombstone" turns up a bunch of stuff unrelated to racism.

Comment author: Nornagest 02 December 2012 09:47:54AM *  -1 points [-]

Racist do not generally like Obama because he is has an African father. This is incredibly surprising.

This seems... well, nonsensical, to be honest. Either there's a typo somewhere in it or I'm completely failing to get the point. Would you mind clarifying?

Comment author: [deleted] 02 December 2012 09:53:55AM *  1 point [-]

"is" was a typo.

Comment author: Nornagest 02 December 2012 10:04:03AM *  0 points [-]

Yeah, I'd assumed that one. Still, about the only way I can make sense of the line is if I assume you mean Afrocentric racists, and those are... well, actually not vanishingly rare (aside from some lexical quibbles on "racist"), but certainly rarer than the Eurocentric kind and pretty clearly not what was being discussed in context.

Comment author: [deleted] 02 December 2012 10:16:03AM *  2 points [-]

Racist do not generally like Obama because he has an African father. This is incredibly surprising.

The second sentence was sarcasm.

Comment author: Nornagest 02 December 2012 08:54:18PM 0 points [-]

That would explain it.