IlyaShpitser comments on Philosophy Needs to Trust Your Rationality Even Though It Shouldn't - Less Wrong

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Comment author: IlyaShpitser 30 November 2012 08:39:13PM *  4 points [-]

Look, everything counts as phil: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_philosophy). Philosophy gets credit for launching science in the 19th century.

Philosophers were the first to invent the AI effect, apparently (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect).

If you want to look at interesting advances in philosophy, read the stuff by the CMU causality gang (Spirtes/Scheines/Glymour, philosophy department, also Kelly). Of course you will probably say that is not really philosophy but theoretical statistics or something. Pearl's stuff can be considered philosophy too (certainly his stuff on actual cause is cited a lot in phil papers).

Comment author: Peterdjones 30 November 2012 11:13:27PM 0 points [-]

Look, everything counts as phil: Old science may also have counted as phil. in the days when they weren't distinct. However WD's exmaples were of contemporary developements that seem to be considered not-phil by contemporary philosophers.

certainly his stuff on actual cause is cited a lot in phil papers

Science in general is quoted quite a lot. But there is a difference between phils. discussing phil. and phils. discussing non-phil as somethign that can be philosophised about. if only in tone and presentation.

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 01 December 2012 07:41:53AM 2 points [-]

Your quoting is confusing.