John_Maxwell_IV comments on Poll - Is endless September a threat to LW and what should be done? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Nominull 09 December 2012 12:32:37AM 25 points [-]

The destruction of LW culture has already happened. The trigger was EY leaving, and people without EY's philosophical insight stepping in to fill the void by chatting about their unconventional romantic lives, their lifehacks, and their rational approach to toothpaste. If anything, I see things having gotten somewhat better recently, with EY having semi-returned, and with the rise of the hypercontrarian archconservative clique, which might be wrong about everything but at least they want to talk about it and not toothpaste.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 09 December 2012 06:35:29AM 5 points [-]

A related request: there are a lot of goals common enough that better achieving these goals should be of interest to a large-ish portion of LW. I'm thinking here of: happiness; income; health; avoiding auto accidents; reading more effectively; building better relationships with friends, family, dating partners, or co-workers; operationalizing one's goals to better track progress; more easily shedding old habits and gaining new ones.

Could we use our combined knowledge base, and our ability to actually value empirical data and consider counter-evidence and so on, to find and share some of the better known strategies for achieving these goals? (Strategies that have already been published or empirically validated, but that many of us probably haven’t heard?) We probably don’t want to have loads and loads of specific-goaled articles or links, because we don’t want to look like just any old random internet self-help site. But a medium amount of high-quality research, backed by statistics, with the LW-community’s help noticing the flaws or counter-arguments -- this sounds useful to me. Really useful. Much of the advantage of rationality comes from, like, actually using that rationality to sort through what’s known and to find and implement existing best practices. And truth being singular, there’s no reason we should each have to repeat this research separately, at least for the goals many of us share.

Anna Salamon, 2009. So this "destruction" was at least semi-planned.

Comment author: Epiphany 11 December 2012 02:24:48AM *  1 point [-]

I read that twice, and went to the post you linked to, and am still not seeing why it supports the idea:

this "destruction" was at least semi-planned.

Maybe you are viewing optimization related posts as a form of cultural collapse?

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 11 December 2012 03:20:39AM 1 point [-]

Nominull seemed to be. I was patterning my use of "destruction" after theirs. I don't see it as destruction myself.