ThrustVectoring comments on Mixed Reference: The Great Reductionist Project - Less Wrong

29 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 05 December 2012 12:26AM

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Comment author: ThrustVectoring 05 December 2012 02:49:34PM 1 point [-]

Uhm, not really. I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "math relies on things doing math". Math isn't about the thinking apparatus doing math. It's a way of systematically reducing the complexity of your mental models - it replaces adding pebbles and adding apples with just adding.

If you imagine a universe with 4 particles in it, then 2+3 is still 5.

Comment author: JMiller 05 December 2012 03:37:19PM 0 points [-]

I found Eliezer's post "Math is Subjectively Objective" which explains his position very clearly. Thanks for your help.

Comment author: Peterdjones 05 December 2012 04:21:08PM 1 point [-]

I found Eliezer's post "Math is Subjectively Objective" which explains his position very clearly.

No it doesn't, since it ends "Damned if I know."

Comment author: JMiller 05 December 2012 04:26:34PM 3 points [-]

Right, which explains his position: math is real and 2+3 really is 5, but he does not know what that means, or where that is true.

You are right though, it isn't a fully fleshed out account. All I said is that it explains his position clearly, not that his position itself is perfectly clear.

Comment author: Peterdjones 05 December 2012 07:49:00PM 0 points [-]

I don't think it even makes it clear that math is real, just that mathematical truth is objective and timeless.