Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on Mixed Reference: The Great Reductionist Project - Less Wrong

29 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 05 December 2012 12:26AM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 26 December 2012 12:07:54AM 1 point [-]

This strikes me as parallel to Searle's view that consciousness imposes meaning.

Why? Did I mention consciousness somewhere? Is there some reason a non-conscious software program hooked up to a sensor, couldn't do the same thing?

I don't think Searle and I agree on what constitutes a physical particle. For example, he thinks 'physical' particles are allowed to have special causal powers apart from their merely formal properties which cause their sentences to be meaningful. So far as I'm concerned, when you tell me about the structure of something's effects on the particle fields, there shouldn't be anything left after that - anything left is extraphysical.

Comment author: Peterdjones 27 December 2012 11:05:15AM 1 point [-]

Searle's views have nothing to do with attributing novel properties to fundamental particles. They are more to do with identifying mental properties with higher-levle physical properties, which are themselves irreducible in a sense (but also reducible in another sense).

Comment author: Ritalin 29 December 2012 08:08:31AM -1 points [-]

That's confusing. What senses?

Comment author: Peterdjones 01 January 2013 11:35:39AM 0 points [-]

See the link I gave to start with.