MugaSofer comments on Mixed Reference: The Great Reductionist Project - Less Wrong

29 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 05 December 2012 12:26AM

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Comment author: MugaSofer 26 December 2012 03:13:23PM *  -2 points [-]

Presenting an obvious result of a nonobvious premise as if it was a nonobvious conclusion seems suspicious, as if he's trying to trick listeners into accepting his conclusion even when their priors differ.

[Edited for terminology.]

Comment author: [deleted] 26 December 2012 03:33:34PM 0 points [-]

Presenting a trivial conclusion from nontrivial premises as a nontrivial conclusion seems suspicious

Not only suspicious, but impossible: if the premises are non-trivial, the conclusion is non-trivial.

In every argument, the conclusion follows straight away from the premises. If you accept the premises, and the argument is valid, then you must accept the conclusion. The conclusion does not need any further support.

Comment author: MugaSofer 26 December 2012 10:08:43PM -1 points [-]

Y'know, you're right. Trivial is not the right word at all.