Cyan comments on Wanting to Want - Less Wrong

16 Post author: Alicorn 16 May 2009 03:08AM

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Comment author: Cyan 20 May 2009 05:27:13AM *  3 points [-]

Where you "attribute [your] distraction entirely to the sense that it was directed at a presumed male audience", I attribute my distraction entirely to the sense that it was directed at a presumed American audience.

Here's where your analogy runs off the rails. Alicorn's text isn't directed at a presumed American audience -- it's directed at an audience presumed to be able to infer that Mountain Dew contains caffeine where she lives. Your rejoinder skips over this exact point made by Alicorn:

I wouldn't have blinked if Psychohistorian had phrased the original remark about women as "I'll still find women alluring", making it about himself instead of about women.

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Comment author: JGWeissman 20 May 2009 06:19:44AM 2 points [-]

The difference is that Phycohistorian was describing experiences that he intended the audience to recognize and identify with as their own, while Alicorn was describing her own experience as her own unique experience.

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Comment author: SoullessAutomaton 20 May 2009 09:37:15AM *  2 points [-]

It isn't necessarily a deliberate, conscious intent. However:

I know that Mountain Dew contains caffeine and that caffeine will make me alert. However, I also know that I hate Mountain Dew.

vs.

It's part of that set of things that doesn't go away no matter what you say or think about them. Women will still be alluring, food will still be delicious, and Michaelangelo's David will still be beautiful, no matter how well you describe these phenomenon.

Surely you see the difference?