MugaSofer comments on By Which It May Be Judged - Less Wrong

35 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 10 December 2012 04:26AM

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Comment author: MugaSofer 10 December 2012 04:59:12PM *  3 points [-]

Wouldn't it be easier to have the programee remember themself as misunderstanding morality - like a reformed racist who previously preferred options that harmed minorities. I know when I gain more insight into my ethics I remember making decisions that, in retrospect, are incomprehensible (unless I deliberately keep in mind how I thought I should act.)

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 11 December 2012 02:14:47AM 1 point [-]

Wouldn't it be easier to have the programee remember themself as misunderstanding morality

That depends on the details of how the human brain stores goals and memories.

Comment author: MugaSofer 11 December 2012 09:09:35AM 1 point [-]

Cached thoughts regularly supersede actual moral thinking, like all forms of thinking, and I am capable of remembering this experience. Am I misunderstanding your comment?

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 13 December 2012 04:42:59AM 1 point [-]

My point is that in order to "fully reprogram" someone it is also necessary to clear their "moral cache" at the very least.

Comment author: MugaSofer 13 December 2012 09:06:20AM 1 point [-]

Well ... is it? Would you notice if your morals changed when you weren't looking?

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 14 December 2012 03:05:51AM 1 point [-]

I probably would, but then again I'm in the habit of comparing the out of my moral intuitions with stored earlier versions of that output.

Comment author: MugaSofer 14 December 2012 11:02:53AM 0 points [-]

I guess it depends on how much you rely on cached thoughts in your moral reasoning.

Of course, it can be hard to tell how much you're using 'em. Hmm...